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Today we are airing Erik's interview with Joe Lonsdale, originally published on Upstream in 2023. Joe Lonsdale is the co-founder of Palantir, managing partner at 8VC, and the founder of The Cicero Institute, a nonpartisan policy organization discusses the root causes of educational inequality and homelessness, and argues for competence over culture wars, data-driven solutions, and market incentives to fix some of the US' most plaguing problems. Grow your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.

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LINKS:

Cicero Institute: https://ciceroinstitute.org/

8VC: https://www.8vc.com/

Palantir: https://www.palantir.com/

Joe Lonsdale's blog: https://blog.joelonsdale.com

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:47) Philanthropy and Impact: Joe's Approach to Social Change

(01:18) Nonpartisan Solutions for Broken Systems

(02:55) Cicero Institute's Mission and Impact Across States

(07:42) Addressing Education Inequality and Accountability

(12:32) Reforming Prisons and Probation with Data and Accountability

(16:12) Tackling Homelessness with Common Sense and Accountability

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(21:16) Introducing Market Incentives, Market Competition, and Market Accountability

(25:06) Sponsor: Squad

(26:34) Innovative Approaches to Healthcare

(31:12) Rethinking Healthcare and Leadership

(31:32) Innovating Within vs. Outside the System

(32:13) The Challenge of Reforming Institutions

(33:41) Navigating the Complexities of Defense and Innovation

(37:36) The Power of State-Level Impact and Education Reform

(39:29) Silicon Valley's Influence and Responsibility

(40:32) Cultural Shifts and the Role of New Institutions

(55:27) The Future of American Competence and Optimism

(57:42) Wrap