Michael Foss: Leaders should always think about building those things it also comes back to your principle you know like your trust building commitment with other people as well within your team so thank you so much for giving us all these great great insights for leadership and from your sharing from your experience as well. You can find the full show notes of this conversation on the episode page at techlitgiano.dev website including the full transcript interesting quotes and links to the resources mentioned from the conversation. If you're new to the podcast make sure to subscribe and leave me your valuable review and feedback it helps me a lot in order to grow this podcast better.

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