I wasn't to one din mushrooms or anything like that. I'd had no experience of significant intoxicant ihad, no interest in anything kind of mystical or spiritual. It's just that for a lot of people who do happen to have some random moment like this, somehow, and this is actually what happened to me, their life doesn't help them know what to do about it. But i do know that er in the role that i'm now in, you know, as a meditation teacher, especially in a school of meditation that acknowledges this kind of experience, i know that it happens.

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