Grumpy Pastors and Poor Communication

LZ: Can we zero in on those last two grumpy pastors and poor communication particularly? LZ: I think there, this can be one of those places where we intersect with people who don't normally attend church. And although our intentions might be good, what actually rolls out is not that helpful. "I hope what we get out of today ... is to stop thinking about the difficulties of these things," she says.