The Power of Thought Leadership

Josh: I think that it's all a big lie and if people realize the truth, that I wouldn't have a job. For me, it's actually worked the other way. They think I'm cool because spring is cool. As a sure thing was cool because I'm cool. It's like everyone like that first green day album before they were famous. Josh: There's no amount of polishing a turd that's going to make it seem great. And then in terms of like the brand, you know, like, I don't know. I was just sort of like reflecting on my own role in this right so like, as many listeners this know I don't code