In one of your rare interviews on line, you said, there's a very simple reason that listening is not something that we do all the time. It's too much workad how can a person start work on getting better at listening? Is it possible to do that? Oh, yes. I mean, i think it's a virtue. And it's just like anything else. Like, you we have to develop muscle memory, and also, the good news about virtues and practices is that you can't be afraid of itJust because you you're not good at it, or you haven't done it very much. The whole point is, you won't be great at it at first