How Do You Do Without Objectives?

I think it's quite counterintuitive. It's almost like explaining to creationists, the evolution is more probably correct,. We're all born into a system in which we immediately go to school where we basically set objectives from day one and then live in that system for 20 years. So when you tell someone the alternative, it's kind of a shock but you only have to look at systems and nature that do this in order to convince yourself that there's something there that might be true. You can still have like great outcomes based on that.