The Different Sides of Skepticism in Meditation

I think people who get into meditation like are different to you. They're less skeptical than you maybe. So skepticism is orthogonal to this because there's a lot of meditation and mindfulness stuff that doesn't require like woo woo levels of spirituality. And the people that I'm talking to are not like spiritually involved in the meditation, like they're being pragmatic about it as well. That's why I feel this frustration of it seems like there's something here, but I'm just not driving anything out of it.