Bhat: Not every business needs to be required to grow in order to achieve its purpose. You talk da about building regenerative systems and, you know, being comfortable with economic erosion if that's necessary for more collaborative, reciprocal economies. What we're looking at is an economic operating system that was developed in the thirteenth century by royals who were concerned about the rise of the middle class. It led to all sorts of good things, along with subjugation of lots of people and a lot of bad things.