"I'm definitely a believer that life exists on at least two levels we're here on the material level we're talking about the ego or the flesh that dies but there's another level above above us and that's where jokes come from," he says. "The way to reach it in my experience is through work is through sitting down and grinding you know sitting down like Beethoven sit stand at the piano and sort of tunes into the cosmic radio station."
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