The Real Opportunity for Men Is Relationships

I don't think there's a definition for healthy. I think that's what we do to ourselves with. Healthy is really a reflection of have we looked at the wounds within ourselves from our own journey and have we taken the steps to heal? And then as we heal, we get healthier. What do you make of people who feel reticent to heal or what's going on? Do you think for them that creates that challenge?