The Complexity of the Problem Space of Enterprise Software

The spring team has actually done a great job of adding first class Kotlin support to, to pretty much everything that they're doing in spring. So we introduced Kotlin into the core spring framework. That'll be there in 20 years. We bet big on it, right? It's very important to us. And so you're to what James was saying. Like, like the happy path is on the rails. The moment you go off the rails, you are not doing something else. Yeah.