I do agree an awful lot with that and, and I list different ways for different ways to approach that and think about that. It can be done with the, with a glass half full approach and I kind of do admire people for try and take that. But there's got to be more NGOs are trying to try and to carry that case to clean or might it's not happening faster forward rather than just focusing on fossil Right. There's a lot of interesting things to be said about wind and so like, you know, just how cheap it is. How good is how cheap is these are the kinds of messages that also need to be platformed. Yeah, completely Dave, thank you
Dave Jones is the Head of Data Insights at Ember, a think tank helping shift the world from coal to clean energy—rapidly.
Dave joined me to discuss the energy transition, going into detail about the impact of coal, gas and oil before comparing our renewable options. He reveals the nations around the world leading the renewable race, the supply chain weaknesses that need to be addressed, and, as ever, the necessity of energy demands vs desires.
“We need to get beyond just thinking about coal and gas power, and to be thinking about like the extra electrification of all the other sectors coming on, because that's gonna hit us really hard in the next few years….
“It's not hitting us at the moment, we’re seeing it fall at the moment. But we know that we’re going to get this big increase coming in the next few years, and trying to keep an eye on that, trying to make sure that we’re putting that into our calculations —Christ, we’re going to have to build an awful lot of clean electricity for all of this.”
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