00:28 - Welcome (back!) Eli

01:10 – Preparing for Miami Beach

01:40 – Marfa and Las Vegas: Yuga Labs, collectors and community on the road

5:50 – The digital council: advising on the digital art ecosystem

7:08 – Leaning into digital art in a post-hype moment

7:50 – 1,000 m² space at Art Basel Miami Beach + global initiative

9:50 – Cultivating a new audience vs “just more sales”

18:20 – How Zero 10 sits outside the usual Art Basel sector selection process

24:00 – Eli’s curatorial brief

26:56 – Why Beeple Studios and Visualize Value are showing as “exhibitors”

35:50 – Stigma, mainstream recognition and why Eli doesn’t want to sanitise crypto culture

44:50 – Onboarding flows, interactive installations, and how to make it “stick”

49:00 – Market conditions and thin liquidity

49:50 – Pricing, supply, and finding the right stewards vs chasing all-time-highs

01:10:53 – SOLOS without a permanent space

01:15:52 – Node’s role in expanding the collector base

01:18:30 – Eli: From operator to patron and making this his life’s work

01:21:00 – Collective spirit vs competition

Outro

The AI-powered Podcast Player