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84. How to create your own thing in Pilates, with John Garey and Raphael Bender

Pilates Elephants

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Stop Plots, You Know, You're a Hero

John and Mike have been friends since the early two thousands. They met through stop platies, where John was a traine instructor. Now they're working together on their own fitness brand called jongary plites. The pair discuss how to create your own thing in polates. And some of the challenges that come with it.

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