I've Gotten You Into Trouble Because of Your Sense of Humor

Ali: I feel like your sense of humor has gotten you into trouble. And then mine because my sense of humor always evolves around saying things that are unacceptable to say and polite society. So it's just, they're both problematic. Ali: What's the key to building the kind of co-founder partner relationship you both enjoy? Ben: It's a completely abstract set of concepts for describing and understanding the world and changing the world and programming.