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The Turtle and the Kiddna
Tyson: In some stories, this fundamental pattern and then the disruptions that follow emanate from a conflict between turtle and a kiddna. There's a line in the book towards the end again where you basically say turtle doesn't hate aKiddna because without the battle, the universe wouldn't even be here. All these patterns, all these stories are repeated around the world. So Orion is always a powerful man who's a hunter or a warrior, every culture. We all have the same story for him.