Michael O'Brien: I've really enjoyed our conversation. So back to the cold face of archival history anda the day to day struggles in the corridors of power, immersed in the 19 sixties, 19 seventies. But a lot less political, lot less political correctness, that's right. Allright. Now, thanks so much for coming on. Thanks for your your latest book, and thanks for your work. It's important. Good bye.
Disasters are inherently hard to predict. Pandemics, like earthquakes, wildfires, financial crises, and wars, are not normally distributed; there is no cycle of history to help us anticipate the next catastrophe. In this episode, Michael Shermer speaks with one of the world’s most renowned historians, Niall Ferguson, who explains why our ever more bureaucratic and complex systems are making us worse, not better, at handling disasters.