I've never met anyone who knows as much about my, about anything as my father knows about aviation. He made over 40 specific different versions of the Havlin Mosquito. That was his like, and they are now in the Mosquito music. I think just as having mentioned him earlier, the first poem I encountered at Dom Passen was a poem called The Elliptical Stylus which is a fierce, like, like unbelievably fierce defense of his father in a particular very, like, tiny scenario. And that was the connection I made with him. It's a, it's, and he is, I'm sure, his biological father. But that is a thing

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