"This is hard for everybody, and that's ok," she says. "We cannot ignore that murmuring and pretend it doesn't exist" The book title refers to how to have difficult conversations about race but can be applied to any sensitive topic,. And so we think about age discrimination, racial discrimination, gender discrimination, all of that type of stuff - the same underlying frameworks can apply to those situations.

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