Caledon: I've never read a book about a podcast before, but I've read all these books and it's constantly stealing your ideas. Their ideas are transferable to the among industries. You know what I mean? Go back and look at the early days of the automobile industry and they all kept going. They're like 30 or 40 years younger than Henry Leland. He worked in coal factory. The first master used product in American history,. And he had this idea of interchangeability. Right? It's how you master do something.

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