John welcomes conservative legal eminence and former U.S. Court of Appeals judge J. Michael Luttig to discuss his new piece in The Atlantic about the prospect of Donald Trump remaining in office after his second term ends. Luttig argues that Trump isn’t joking or trolling when he floats the notion of running for president again in 2028, despite the Constitution’s clear proscription against him doing so; that in the past nine months he has already amassed enough executive power to “subvert or even cancel both the midterms next year and the 2028 election;” and that we dismiss or ignore those possibilities “at our peril.”
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