I think the real concern is not so much political manipulation. And the obvious moral panics particularly about the digital world I mean I remember years and years ago when some relative it may have been my mom asked me whether you know I and all of my friends are no longer having a social life because we were just spending our time on second life which turned up to be the apocalypse that the media claimed at the time. The reason people are amenable to this kind of manipulation is not because of technology it's because we've arrived at a moment of kind of epistemological incoherenceWe're deciding which experts to trust is really hard because the system is manifestly tilted towards industrial interests and the interests