In the past few years, as feminists have tried to organize meetings and debates they've been met with protesters trying to shut them down. Across the country, clashes are erupting between the two groups. These activists say that trans women are women, full stop, and to engage in a debate at all is to engage in transphobic hate speech. Michelle Goldberg: "I can't think of a pure instance of authoritarianism than no debate"
The movement for trans rights hits its stride in the early 2010s, but encounters fierce resistance from an unexpected source. J.K. Rowling watches the battle unfold with mounting unease.
Produced by Andy Mills, Matthew Boll, and Megan Phelps-Roper, with special thanks to Candace Mittel Kahn and Emily Yoffe.
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