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Chris super excited to be hanging out with you today, man for our audience Maybe just tell us who you are what you're up to these days a little bit about your family

Good to see you Jared Chris wit. I've been doing camp ministry for three decades now 26 summers is full-time and Then nine years on a board of the same camp I left out of Texas I was we're gonna place called Sky Ranch We had camps in Texas and Oklahoma and Colorado and day camps and I just love I love the ministry I mentor mine says it's the most effective means of Sharing the gospel and a life of faith with the most receptive hearts and so it's typically for younger kids There's nothing more potent than camp. It's a powerful tool. I thought I had left it I was working in the church as executive pastor and And got a call from win shape and I you know I'd eaten those donuts camp was awesome I have a man I sometimes it's a young man's game and I just thought I was done with it But win shape was this unique combination of our collection of expertise That seemed special and that got to do something unique here and so my wife and I we are boys are both grown Married. I'm a grandfather now. I have my first Grandson Declan and my son starts as a pastor I'm at a church in Mississippi this week as a matter of fact and so our kids are grown empty nests We've done that thing we felt like we had one more adventure in us to come move to Georgia So we left Texas after 50 some odd years dude and moved to North Georgia You would think it south is the south, but it ain't Texas is its own thing, but we love it. We love it here.