The Mixed Bag Nature of Trauma, Right?

Sally Kohn: It's difficult to hear this kind of conversation and not come away with a lot of different feelings, like grief, anger, frustration. I'm thinking here too about when Elizondo used the word somber, how much airtime that it took in the podcast circuit and everywhere else. You know, we've essentially been traumatized twice, you know, not only by these others, but by their fellow human beings. So on the one hand, that feels like such a loss of agency and sovereignty, right? But on the other hand, sometimes those same people that talk about those kind of traumatizing events come back and find that they start having precognitive dreams