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Ruth Ben-Ghiat

The Back Room with Andy Ostroy

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The Rise of Autocracy

'I don't know if we were on the brink. What Trump was doing and he's going to finish it really fast if he gets back in,' says Julian Zelizer. 'The whole way he governed got people used to an autocratic leader, right? And the biggest thing he did was make the GOP his personal tool.'

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