The Importance of Attracting a Normy Audience

Curtis: I think there could be successful models in both, you know, deliberately niche ways and also in ways that you transcend that. Like a good example of like the second order cultural issue is like Richard Hanoani is writing on like affirmative action. He's not the person named, but his ideas of influence can have a bigger impact than someone like him or even Elon Musk.