Yeb: I always just assumed wrongly, land lins and stuff, like a public service. Pa: We paid for them to lay the fibre optic yet, we did. And then we rented back to them for pennies on a dollar. Yeb: That's what joe should be complaining about. If he wants to complain about canada for something, it's our phone racketif you're totally right, remember he used to sell phone minutes.