The Importance of Listening to Both Narratives

I'm so committed to the notion that if there's a wall, you cannot understand the wall unless you hear both narratives. And a great example of that is Ireland. You know what surprised me in Northern Ireland is how much the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is manifested. Oh, you see Palestinian flags in the Catholic communities and you see Israeli flags on the flag poles of the post offices in Protestant communities. That is fascinating when you do see that.