Is There a Precondition That You Don't Accept?

I'm wondering if there is like, a moment from that interview that stands out in your mind where you thought, and because this is like you you were risking a lot here. I mean, she she has nothing to we have one precondition for everybody who comes on the show, and it's very simple. It's, we don't accept any pre conditions. Your precondition is that you don't accept preconditions, right? We learn so much more from people's failures than we do from their successes. If you heard our recent episode we did on ring door bells, tho jmi simonof eighty per cent of that episode is about his failures and his struggles...