I think there's a part of the joy of engineering management or probably just any other endeavor is like to try some, some things that if you're uncomfortable with and get a new experience lessons learning from that. That would be my core action for everyone. And yeah, now we expect you to build a $10 billion company to put Japan even more on the map for engineering orgs. I do really appreciate you talking with us about it because it's too many of us. There's a heavy burden on you now to put your time on the mat. Thank you.
Kohsuke Kawaguchi, the creator of Jenkins, pulls back the curtain on building tech companies in Japan. He shares his lessons from Cloudbees and how building two very different engineering organizations from the ground up showed him the importance of diversity in engineering teams.
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