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135: Supreme Excellence with Discomfort and Extreme Ownership. With Dave Berke.

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Interpersonal Dynamics and the Cost of War

This chapter explores the complexities of communication in relationships, emphasizing the importance of genuine intent over manipulation. It highlights the paradox of leadership through selflessness and the significance of taking ownership in personal interactions. Additionally, it reflects on the harrowing experiences of World War I soldiers, the bonds of camaraderie, and the emotional weight of sacrifice and freedom.

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