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6.11 Lets talk about male friendships with Max Dickins

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Relationship Therapy

"I think the fact that my partner had done quite a lot of therapy before I'd engaged made me curious about it," she says. "We essentially have a lot of the tools because we've been socialized ... So we kind of need to hand the tools over to the men in our lives." It's also important to say though that there's been enough of women, talked about King Keepers, talking about doing the emotional labor, being the HR department. She adds: "It might be very sad in a relationship to feel like, oh, is this never going to change?"

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