Grace Saves All, Dr. Hock

David Hock: I think that your scholarly contributions have helped me and many others to see that there is a necessary connection between creations and the moral character of God. He says hearing the same arguments made over and over and over again without actually getting down to the arguments the book makes sometimes makes him more impatient than it should. David Artman: The failure of charity, no doubt. On a good note of charity then, we will end this conversation.