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As the U.S. and China part ways, the Global South finds its own path, with Kishore Mahbubani

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The Three Easy Rules for Dealing With ASEAN Countries

Deborah Brothiger has been putting out research that really debunks this claim of debt trap diplomacy. Kaisa says the United States was very pragmatic and careful after winning the Cold War to work with a whole variety of regimes including some authoritarian regimes. The great paradox is that the United States fell in love with China when it was run by Mao Zedong in 1971 so you know it is that that point in time I don't recall anybody saying hey China is not a democracy right in 1971, she says.

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