On summit day, that would be 1 p.m. You have to get down from the summit in daylight. If you descend in darkness, the chances of death are just too great. They were going up and it was really crowded. There's over 30 people trying to get up the mountain at the same time. So they're in that book and they're talked about quite a bit as the best decision makers on the mountain because they turned around.

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