The Truth of Process

I think it's something akin to writing the line between chaos and order, which is why I use the yin and yang symbol as well in that chapter. And there's something about that that embodies the truth, even though it's not a final truth. It's more like a truth of process. The podcast market is absolutely huge, you know? Rogan, from what I've been able to glean from my conversations with him, he gets 150 million downloads a month,. So it's 1.5 billion downloads a year or so. That makes him the most powerful interviewer who's ever lived.