Sometimes people just shut down there just like okay well she's not going to. take care of this I have to do the work. And so that's my experience is that they want something else outside of them to fix them to fix their problems. It's one of the reasons why I'm very hopeful for like psychedelic therapy, you know, psilocybin and MDMA because I don't think that those are cure all's. But what I do see it as is maybe it can remove enough of that calcification to get them to the point where they're like, okay. Wow, I see, I See, I need to fix this"

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