I Don't Know What to Think About Shirena

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I thought that it was my job to write about the landlords as much complexity and humanity as I did their tenants. And because you do that, you give a very round portrait of the place that they have in the structure of housing in America. So when readers tell me, you know, I don't know what to think of her, I think, okay, I did okay there. You know, I kind of wrote a, I wrote a complex story because of ... The world's complex.

Pulitzer Prize winning sociologist, professor at Princeton University and author of the book Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City, Matthew Desmond joins Adam this week to discuss the physical effects poverty has on the people living in it, the lack of a national conversation about the housing crisis, and how the "American Dream" story is hurting us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.