"I'm just, I am sick of people who need these people," he says. "The weird thing with this guy is he seems to be about hierarchies and people falling to the wayside because they couldn't cut it." The idea that everybody's going to be a fully actualized human being is insane,. They don't need meaning. In fact, most people are better off kind of staying at surface level, staying I like potato salad. Right. Just like just dying of a suit. Well, part of my problem with this new ethos of finding meaning, people don't needs meaning. People need fucking things to do".