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What Happens When You Make Room for God?
I think in the western tradition of the church, we're so, we downplay the reality our embodied lived social reality. And I know for myself that kind of bore good fruit for a while. And then it seemed to tail off. That's where you were in dialogue with Dallas Willard is how and why do spiritual formation practices help some people and then not others at all? Or why do they help some people for a little while but then they kind of stopped working.