I think where Kennedy really shines is like Jamal said when he talks about the military industrial complex. He's not afraid to just come right out and say the truth, which is this is not an important enough American interest to be spending hundreds of billions a year on. I mean, I've never heard a candidate say something that pragmatic. And then people like him and Trump and you put Trump in this category too, who are resisting that. So I would have liked to hear more about that.

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