Lino: There's a continuum of people who are like out you know bikes are good cars bad and then at the far end it's like band cars. On the other end you have the carmenists which it's like cars are good everything else bad that cars built America, he said. Lino also noted that even the small cars are bigger than an old one too so there's this very on Mike's sweet was in good faith and he has a sense of humor but I did say this it's funny Mike Levine came in and we like Mike and he's a reasonable man says something about his twenty three thousand dollar Ford Maverick to go get some coffee is getting better gas mileage