Are There Things in Society That Aren't Just Energy Trans Maximum Energy Transfer?

Speaker 1
I think it's, I think it's pretty big brain. I think it's the most fundamental need. It's like, it's like what it feels very sailor-esque in a way, just moving atoms across the universe and optimizing for that. And I wonder if that if that's really what capitalism itself is optimizing for, like just efficiency of like energy creation, energy transfer, if that's what it all is like at its root. But then that kind of leads me into my next thing, which is that like, aren't there things in society that aren't like just energy trans maximum energy transfer, maximum energy, comfort, love?
Speaker 3
I mean,
Speaker 6
the end of this is
Speaker 1
stellar, which is the right ending. Oh, don't you don't derail this podcast. It's
Speaker 6
great
Speaker 1
to be. But yeah, yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious for David, like, where do you think like, are there any areas of society where you think capitalism like actually doesn't work? Can I also add to the question a little bit? Because I think it'd be a cool way to explore this and close it out and David can kick it off. But I think the more bit zoomed out question here is like what we've explored is that capitalism makes sense in so many ways. You know, I kind of narrow, you know, I took I took that narrative in the beginning more so just for the sake of like starting the conversation, giving us the the mainstream narrative that exists today. And I think that it sounds like all of us here want a version of capitalism that has existed. But I'm curious if we were really to to hit the reset button here, and you were to begin a nation state from scratch. And you were in charge. It was up to you. What would be the system that you would implement from the beginning? Like what is the right and maybe you've already touched on this enough, David, but I'm curious if there's more to it. Like, how would you really approach this if you were creating
Speaker 2
from scratch?

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