Sheila Heti, author of Alphabetical Diaries, Pure Colour, Motherhood and How Should A Person Be?, among other works, speaks to writer, journalist and filmmaker Juliet Jacques, whose published works include Monaco, Variations and Trans: A Memoir, about her writing to date. The discussion touches on revealing the hidden face of the self in writing, taking contemporary culture seriously as subject matter, the possibility of capturing ‘the spirit of the age’ in a time of fragmentation, and the unconscious processes that shape our lives. Recorded at Young Space in May 2024. Edited by Frankie Wells. Music composed by Kwes Darko.