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Human-centered design role in clinical trials with Bruce Hellman and Ben James

Clinical Trial Podcast | Conversations with Clinical Research Experts

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The Hard Thing About Hard Things

I want to ask you about your swimming in very cold water that's on your bio on the website. Where are you swimming in cold water and why? You realise you're not that interesting when you go to write it. I kind of win half method and all that so I do enjoy it though. The water can be kind of close to freezing sometimes but I think once you get used to it it's pretty invigorating.

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