K carlyle has now stepped back from the bidding wart. Does this mean that victoria is now ripe for the picking for philip morris? It certainly puts philip morris in a stronger position than before, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the game is over just yet. Private equity is trying to take the moral high ground in this transaction and say, yes, we can't pay as much money as big tobacco would pay to own this company,. But we should still be allowed to buy it anyway, because we are the better owner. That's an interesting which, you know, deals don't very often come down to that type of conversation.

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