I had been trying to understand how, you know, Clucy Klein theory, of course, which Einstein was his, spent the last half of his life on trying to unify the forces using extra dimensions. And so, and green and shorts, it didn't, didn't put geometry in. It was all scattering of gravitons with other particles. So we, we put the geometry back in and we found as you just alluded to, we found that if you look very carefully at the equations of string theory there are ways to get rid of the 10 dimensions and get down to four. I haven't seen anything else like that in my career.

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