Exploring the Relationship Between Language of Training and Language of Explaining

Brendan Graham Dempsey is an author and speaker specializing in metamodern spirituality, exploring the intersections of traditional faith and contemporary thought.

How can ancient faith traditions adapt to the complexities of the modern world?

In this episode of Voices with Vervaeke, John Vervaeke and Brendan Graham Dempsey explore the potential for metamodern spirituality to breathe new life into the Christian faith. Dempsey shares his transformative journey from traditional beliefs to a metamodern perspective that integrates ancient doctrines with contemporary thought. Their discussion addresses challenging issues such as historical and postmodern critiques of the Bible, the complex relationship between faith and science, and the psychological underpinnings of religious practices. This conversation aims to rejuvenate our understanding of Christianity and enrich our engagement with reality, setting the stage for future dialogues on the essence of God and the sacred.

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"I'm interested in the ways that spirituality begins to dovetail with the sciences, where that antagonism many of us are familiar with is transcended and healed in a profound way." - Brendan Graham Dempsey [00:04:00]

"We need the language of explaining because the language of explaining is the language of science. If we don't have a properly cultivated language of explaining, the gulf between spirituality and science will remain. That is one of the significant drivers of the meaning crisis." - John Vervaeke [00:15:33]

"What's the point of the religious relationship to Jesus? Is it to accurately capture the past or wisely prepare you for the future? I think the latter is exactly what it's most properly for." John Vervaeke [00:39:28]

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0:00 Introduction: Brendan's Christian Roots and Academic Journey 

06:20 Modern and Postmodern Biblical Critiques

10:15 Metamodern Christianity and Its Challenges

13:40 Training vs. Explaining in Religious Contexts

20:45 Bridging Historical Jesus and Imaginal Christ

43:05 Faith, Maturation, and the Interplay of Training and Explanation

51:50 Imaginal Recovery and Theological Continuity

01:02:45 Navigating Order and Chaos: Spiritual Growth Dynamics

01:27:30 Conclusion: Exploring the Numinous - God, Sacredness, and Ultimate Reality

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Ideas, Authors, and Works Mentioned in This Episode:

Metamodernism 

Transcendent Naturalism

Jesus of Nazareth 

Biblical Studies 

Postmodern Critiques 

Nietzsche 

Foucault 

Derrida

Spinoza

Plato 

Xenophon 

Aristophanes

Solon

Aristotle 

Henry IV, V, and IV (Shakespeare) 

Shakespeare’s early works 

Plato's Socrates 

H.G. Gadamer

T.S. Eliot

J.R.R. Tolkien

C.S. Lewis

G.W.F. Hegel

J.L. Schellenberg

J.Campbell

C.Jung 

Jordan Peterson

Jared Morningstar

Dr. Johannes A. Niederhauser (Halkyon Academy)

J.A.S. Kelso

Paul (Apostle)

Brian McLaren 

D.C. Schindler

Paul Vander Klay

The Language of Coaching by Nick Winkelman

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